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11-07-2014 09:52 PM
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Mortans Ideas



Septimus Iulius Severus Offline
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Hello good folk!

Since in this forum room there isn't a post concerning ideas for future releases like in those of the other factions I'll keep stuffing the Mortan one Smile.

I think it would be nice to share ideas and wishes for future releases to help the developers of the game, even if only a little. I may just be a nuisance but I believe that a feedback from part of the gamers population wouldn't be a bad thing.

So here's what I came up with:

I- Chariots.
The other factions are all getting cavalry units, and chariots would be nice themed options for Mortans. The only problem is that I'm afraid they are being reserved for other new factions.

II- Spirits, ghosts or anything ethereal.
This is in order to give substance (no pun intended Smile) to the mysterious and occult feel of the Magistratum and add tactital options to balance the physical rotting half of the subfaction Wink.

III- Flying units.
Eagles would be nice, because they were a symbol of ancient Rome. However if being adherent to history is a problem, the solution might come from a cool airborne species of Calydorn, maybe something like the gargoyles which are a common decoration of Mortan buildings.
Regarding Technostratum why not even a small kind of ethership as a war machine...

IV- Gladiators.
The were an icon of the Imperial era and elite units of around three models would be very fun to play. I'm thinking about unorthodox tactics or special talents to differentiate them from militia and professional soldiers already present in the factions.

V- The Talos.
It would be nice to have the colossus of the Technostratum dwarfing those old relics of Cyclopses Tongue.

VI- Praetorian Excoriators.
Yet again this cool elite force mentioned in the background book would be great to see on the battlefield with its magical whips slicing dimensions.

VII- Ordo Annihilistum.
As mentioned in another post (and their future release was unofficially half-confirmed) the sorcerers meddling with chaos would be utterly awesome to behold.

Let us now what your dark wishes are concerning models, rules, items and anything else you might conceive Smile.

Have a nice weekend, curate ut valeatis!

Omnibus superstes Imperium est.
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11-07-2014 10:29 PM
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RE: Mortans Ideas



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Ok, lets see:
Chariots: Romans and Chariots? Only on parades Wink

Spirits, ghosts or anything ethereal: That wpuld be cool. Ancestral Spirits or something like that.

Flying units: Hmm, ok, Gargoyles or Harpies would work, but I would prefer not to see too many "monsters"" in the Mortan Army.

Gladiators: Hmm....they may be´cool, but it makes absolutely no sense to take them to war. They are not a military unit. They're entertainers and they are very expensive. No one would train a Gladiator for years an then let him die in a battle by accident bringing no money.
Maybe if there were another faction, Patricians or something like this, with units like thugs, house guards and Gladiators.

The Talos: A construct from Technostratum would be cool, or troops improved be technology... a hero would be great too. An alchemist maybe?

Praetorian Excoriators: we already have a Praetorian unit. that's enough I think.

Ordo Annihilistum: Well, that is a whole new faction. I think we have to wait at least until wave 3 for them Wink

Some new units are already confirmed: the Assassin, light auxiliary troops and half Ogers.
I would like to see some female miniatures for the Mortans.
For the Legio I would like to see separate shield to make different legions and unit upgrades like the signifier with a signum. I would like to see the calva alata appearing somewhere. This is the sign of the empire, but you see it nowhere on the miniatures.
And of course, the Centurion must be redone Wink
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11-08-2014 12:06 AM
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RE: Mortans Ideas



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I- Chariots.
Probably all factions will get chariots (maybe not Banebrood). They are planned for Wave 4. But we might squeeze in a couple earlier, and first up would be the Mortans. Although Chariots in Ancient Rome were purely ceremonial, it fits to the war-machine theme of the faction that they would use them extensively. This would fit well since we intend to Limit their cavalry Options.


II- Spirits, ghosts or anything ethereal.
Planned in fact first ones are planned for Wave-2

III- Flying units.
Carrion Scouts on Vultures are planned as well as some undead flayers. Flyers will all be in Wave-3

IV- Gladiators.
Planned as part of a 4th subfaction for some point in the future. In fact we have been already making a rough draft of some models already. Ist not possible to say when this will happen. We have a 4th subfaction planned for all factions. It depends how much success we have and how fast. So spread the word of Godslayer and make more converts.


V- The Talos.
Definitely planned. Probably Wave-3.

VI- Praetorian Excoriators.
Yes, hopefully we can make several praetorian Units since they are all specialists.

VII- Ordo Annihilistum.
Probable. We have not done any planning for them yet but they are on the agendy for some point in the future.


VIII - I would like to see some female miniatures for the Mortans.
Yes, that is a very good idea. Do you have some idea how they might fit?


IX - separate shield to make different legions and unit upgrades like the signifier with a signum.
Very good idea. We can work on that probably soon. We also want to make alternate shields for varios Halodyne city-states.

X - I would like to see the calva alata appearing somewhere.
We are planning in the near future a possible release for Mortan scenery items. These would be used on buildings. A Standard bearer is also planned for some Point and he will definitely bear the Calva Alata Symbol.
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11-08-2014 12:53 AM
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RE: Mortans Ideas



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Well things are looking great Smile

Lameth, you're very accurate on the historical details but this way we could use just a few models ahah Wink.

Regarding the Standard Bearer it would be a great addition indeed, on the battlefield just the presence of the insignia would inspire the troops and in order not to loose it they would usually fight to the death. The trooper upgrade as a Signifer is also great, in fact I'm planning the conversion of a legionnaire carrying a banner (X legio obviously).
The Clava Alata was indeed dashing on the shields of legionnaires in the pictures of the background book and obviously the standard bearer would be the perfect choice.

The idea of female miniatures is very good too, but I'd have to think about how to make them fit as David pointed out. Maybe some kind of healers? Or an order named something like "Edge Sisters" collecting the Lapis Manalis of the fallen?

I thought about an alchemist too, but the only things I came up with are something dull resembling Xisteri with different bombs. I'll let you think about this...

Vultures aren't exactly the cool flyers I was thinking about but the miniatures might change my mind and I like the mystery around the undead flyers Smile.

Another great thing is the intention of various elite Praetorian units.

An additional warlord for the Legions might be the Tribunum, a higher ranking officer more costly than the Centurion.

Finally (as you might have guessed I'm totally fixated on the Annihilistum Tongue) chaos magic would be something very fun for the game. It obviously should be utter destruction but with troublesome setbacks depending on the dice roll etc... Twisted/mutated/crazed units might also apply but with different characteristics from Banebrood of course.

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11-08-2014 01:21 AM
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RE: Mortans Ideas



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I enjoy the fact that the creator deities of caldron exist on this forum to motivate me to greater acts of zealous conversion.

"I do not know what drugs the writers of the fluff were on while they were reading Robert E Howard books but they should share"-me when telling friends about the fluff of godslayer
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11-08-2014 01:48 AM
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RE: Mortans Ideas



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Quote:VIII - I would like to see some female miniatures for the Mortans.
Yes, that is a very good idea. Do you have some idea how they might fit?

Well, the Assassin comes in mind first, if I think about it.
light, skirmish or missile troops could have female models. If you are going to make Gladiators, female models would fit too.

Alternate female miniatures for the Necromagus and Mortifex would be nice.

The silent Sisters, a Crypt Guard: Female Elite unit as Bodyguards for the Necromagus or the Mortifex.

I would love to see some bold girls with goggles from Technostratum (an alchemist, or some missile troops) Wink
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11-08-2014 12:39 PM
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RE: Mortans Ideas



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Nice ideas but I believe elite units are better suited, also considering the background. By the way, why assassins would be the first to come in mind?

The problem here is that I have the impression that women in Mortan society have very different roles than men (the lack of the praenomen is indicative), therefore exclusive roles might be preferable to mixed units/characters. Something like Silent Sisters (I don't know if the name can be used) would be great. But this is just my interpretation of Mortan society Wink.
For skirmishers the issue doesn't present itself, since they usually are auxiliary troops coming also from annexed provinces. By the way, I hope they have some kind of long range weapons (plain bows?) because the Xisteri Bombers are great but sometimes they are more like Suicide Bombers with their minuscule range Tongue.

Regarding alternative miniatures I'd prefer new releases had the priority on remakes, even if the last ones are always welcome Smile.

I thought about the alchemist and might be a decent fighter/shooter but a very good buffer for units.

I'd also be very useful to the tactical variety to have at least some cavalry options because right now I sometimes suffer the lack of mobility, and this is going to get worse if the other factions will have a lot of cavalry. Of course it's right to have consistent different characteristics of the factions but no cavalry at all or just one option might be a little crippling. But this are just speculations, we'll see if there will actually be this problem Smile.

Lastly Lameth other undead construct would be great, but I agree with you that monster for the Legions are out of character.

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11-08-2014 09:46 PM
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Quote:By the way, why assassins would be the first to come in mind?
Don´t know. Maybe because Assassins are associated with deadly elegance and elegance is an attribute which is associated with women? If I think about an assassin in a fantasy setting, a female character comes in mind first.
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11-09-2014 01:37 AM
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An alchemist character and an engineer character are both planned for the Technostratum faction in the future. These will be buffing characters.

The Mortan Empire is a very male-dominated culture, but we should be able to find a place for some female models. As spellcasters is a good idea.

Something like cataphracts are a possibilty for Legion cavalry. Mortans have war-machines and will have more shooters too as well as rock-hard infantry, and soon light infantry. With so many options, cavalry will be deliberately limited for this faction.
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11-09-2014 12:30 PM
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RE: Mortans Ideas



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Perfect, just a tad bit of cavalry would be all it's needed and cataphracts sound great Smile.
Nice to hear alchemists and engineers are planned.
Just to know, since ancient Rome had a quite advanced medical knowledge (if I'm not mistaken), is there any thought about a medical figure for the legions?

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