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07-02-2014 08:54 PM
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RE: Oakbows cowardice



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Yeah, you brought something up here, I guess... Intention was that they flee after the charge movement has been done (so the charging unit does not suffer a failed charge), but before the charge attacks occur (they would be forced to make a bravery test in 95% of the cases due to losses anyway, so it wouldn't make much sense then...).

This is definitely something that needs to be clearified in an Q&A. Until then, play it like I said (and most of you supposed anyway Wink)

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07-02-2014 09:04 PM
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RE: Oakbows cowardice



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Thx for the provisional solution.

I do think a failed charge in this case is too much for the oukbows
but with 4 Act having shot and being charged would get u 3" away. The charger could just move once and still wack them.

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07-02-2014 09:17 PM
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RE: Oakbows cowardice



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So the rules for a failed horror check also say check when engaged and "immediately flee". But here you have to wait for the finished charge attacks?
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07-02-2014 09:37 PM
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So, enemy models do the charge movement and, immediately after that, oakbows run away in flee and they don't suffer charge' attacks. There's no free strikes for a flee.
So, thank you, now it's clear.

Quote:I do think a failed charge in this case is too much for the oukbows
but with 4 Act having shot and being charged would get u 3" away. The charger could just move once and still wack them.

Totally agree with this.
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07-06-2014 03:25 PM
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RE: Oakbows cowardice



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(07-02-2014 09:17 PM)Markgrafgero Wrote:  So the rules for a failed horror check also say check when engaged and "immediately flee". But here you have to wait for the finished charge attacks?

don't know, this needs clarification.

Horror Model charges enemy model, enemy model fails horrortest, flees, charge failed, activation ended?!
naah, this can't be.
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07-06-2014 04:25 PM
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Page 62:
Engaging refers to models being within Melee Range (page 68) of another model.

Page 68:
A model is classified as being in melee as soon as one or more enemy models are within range of its melee weapon and line of sight or, conversely, if the model is within range of an enemy's melee weapon and line of sight.

Page 85:
As soon as a model/unit is engaged by or engages a horror-causing model/unit the player must immediately make a Horror Test for the affected model/s [...] If the test is failed, the model/unit must immediately Flee.

Page 86:
Models which are required to flee will always move immediately except when engaged in melee[...]
-Models engaged in melee which are forced to flee, will do so immediately after the enemy model/unit completes its current action.


So the big question is when is immediately really immediately.
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07-06-2014 05:06 PM
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RE: Oakbows cowardice



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Well, p.86 says it for me:

Models engaged in melee which are forced to flee, will do so immediately after the enemy model/unit completes its current action.

This means for me, that the Oakbows have to suffer the charge attack as this charging + attacking is a whole single action. Only when they are normally engaged, they may flee before any attacks are done.
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07-06-2014 05:39 PM
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let's wait for the official rules to be clarified.

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07-06-2014 06:18 PM
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RE: Oakbows cowardice



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(07-06-2014 05:06 PM)Khazrak Wrote:  Well, p.86 says it for me:

Models engaged in melee which are forced to flee, will do so immediately after the enemy model/unit completes its current action.

This means for me, that the Oakbows have to suffer the charge attack as this charging + attacking is a whole single action. Only when they are normally engaged, they may flee before any attacks are done.

I absolutely agree with Khazrak and Euphoric on this one...
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07-07-2014 01:06 PM
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RE: Oakbows cowardice



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In my opinion, for cowardice, we have already had an official answer:

Quote:Intention was that they flee after the charge movement has been done (so the charging unit does not suffer a failed charge), but before the charge attacks occur (they would be forced to make a bravery test in 95% of the cases due to losses anyway, so it wouldn't make much sense then...).

This is definitely something that needs to be clearified in an Q&A. Until then, play it like I said
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